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Post by Saviya on Mar 12, 2004 17:02:58 GMT -5
Until recently, scholars only offered vague ideas about the true origins of the travelling people of Europe and the Middle East but since the Second World War, more and more research has been done which connects the Roma with a very specific area in the north west of the Indian subcontinent. Why they left is more difficult to ascertain. Professor Ian Hanthingy of the University of Texas argues that they were honorary members of the 'Kshattriya' or warrior caste who were recruited into the ill-fated armies which faced the Islamic invasion of Mahmud of Ghazni. Some have theorised that they were simply driven out of their homes by either Islam or a neighbouring 'tribe'. Whatever the reasons for their wanderings, the Romani arrival in Europe was greeted with anything but Christian charity. In Romania, it was perfectly legal to keep Romanies as slaves until 1864. In England in 1530, a ship's owner could be fined £40 (a good annual income) for transporting 'Gypsies' - the passengers themselves were hanged. Almost every country enacted anti-Romani legislation at some point or another thus denying the travelling population any chance of settling and integrating. Romani history is definitely not a story of free and fanciful wanderings but a chronology of persecutions and attempted genocides which dancers should, perhaps, be aware of and treat with due respect. For a detailed account, go to www.geocities.com/Paris/5121/timeline.htm
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Post by Najmes on Mar 17, 2004 10:15:24 GMT -5
I fully agree that as dancers we must pay respect to the struggle of the people's who have brought to the western world beauty, art, & culture. We as public perfomers do carry a certain responsibility to make sure that we are consistant in our support and not just abusing another culture for our own means.
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Post by MEISSOUN on Mar 23, 2004 10:07:30 GMT -5
This is also why it bothers me that so many dancers use the term "gypsy dance" when all they do is just whip around their skirt and shake a tambourine. Actually, I have done a LOT of research and there isn't such a thing as "gypsy tambourine dance"! While the tambourine is a very important female instrument for the Roma, they don't dance with it!
On the other hand, references to dance and tambourine can be found in the Bible.
I wish that people would research better what they dance and what they call it!!!
MEISSOUN
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Post by Saviya on Mar 24, 2004 4:38:49 GMT -5
There do seem to be a lot of people who believe that this is 'authentic' dancing for any Romani. I agree, I've never come across any traditional Roma dance where the dancer is also the one playing the music. Another problem I have is that the term is used to cover so many geographically diverse peoples. The Romanichal people of the British Isles are, in my opinion, a distinct and separate entity from the Rroma in, for example, Romania yet there seems to be a tendency to group everyone together as though the same music is played, the same dances danced and the same language spoken. I'm just waiting to get permission to use some photos on here which will maybe help people to get a better idea about the myth of the 'romantic Gypsy' wandering freely without a care in the world'
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Post by vini on Apr 22, 2006 9:08:03 GMT -5
Hi ! There is only one authentic romani dance that uses the tambourine and only one !!! It is danced by women and men in southern Serbia in a town called Vranje. The name of this dance is Vranjanska svita. But beside this dance, you're right, no roma dance that uses the tambourine, especially not in the Eastern Europe ! Here is a link where you'll find all about the authentic roma dances : www.simonajovic.com/v2/sommUS.htmlVini
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